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September 13, 2023
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I accidentally put 100% of my money to Federal Withholding Tax instead of going to my checking account from ROTH.

  • September 13, 2023
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I withdraw some monies from my ROTH and supposed to go to my checking account. But few minutes after, I checked the transaction and see the 100% amount went to Federal Withholding Tax by MISTAKE. So instead of putting 0 or 10%, for some reason I must have put 100. What do I do? I called the bank and said they will try to reverse it but it looks like it is gone and completed in their system. 

 

Can somebody help me in this situation please?

 

@singlecrowe2 recommendation would be highly appreciated.

 

 

Best answer by NCPERSON1

Dessertrice13, 

 

Yes, unfortunately, if you do not meet the age and time held requirements you will get a 10% penalty on the distribution.  You have to have had the Roth for at least 5 years and be 59 1/2 years to avoid the early distribution penalty. 

 

TaxLadySusan 


 

@dessertrice13 it is a little more complex than @TaxLadySusan stated.  There are ways to avoid toe 10% early withdrawl penalty even if you are not 59.5 years old. 

 

yes, if you are over 59.5 and any Roth account you own has been open for 5 calendar years, there is no tax and there is no 10% penalty.

 

But if that isn't true (i.e. you are under 59.5 year old OR the Roth has been open for less than 5 calendar years, there can be tax and there can be 10% penalties! 

 

There are 3 flavors of withdrawals, and the IRS presumes them to occur in this order:

 

1) Contribution dollars - 

2) Conversions dollars (these are dollars that came from a TRAD IRA) -

3) earnings dollars 

 

if you are over 59.5 and the Roth has been open for less than 5 calendar years, the earnings are taxable and there is no 10% penalty.  Everything else is tax free and penalty free. 

 

if you are under 59.5 and the Roth has been open for more than 5 calendar years, 

   Contributions - no tax and no 10% penalties

   Conversions  - no tax but 10% penalties apply to any conversion that occured in the last 5 years 

   Earning - tax and 10% penalties apply

 

if you are under 59.5 years old and the Roth has been open for less than 5 calendar years,. 

    Contributions - no tax and no penalties

   Conversions  - no tax but 10% penalties apply  

   Earning - tax and 10% penalties apply

 

there are exceptions that get you out of the 10% penalties.... but I won't go there. 

 

So if the money you withdrew is less than your contribution dollars, there is no tax and no 10% penalties (regardless of your age) , because the IRS presumes the Contribution dollars are all distributed first and therefore none of the Conversion dollars or earnings were withdrawn.....

2 replies

VolvoGirl
Employee
September 13, 2023

Gosh,  you  probably have to get it when you file your 2023 tax return next April.  Can you take another ROTH distribution and have zero withheld?  That would give you the cash now.   

September 13, 2023

I cannot. I almost emptied my ROTH account. Is there anyway I can get the money from IRS at least earlier than my tax return next year? It's genuinely a mistake 😞

September 13, 2023

Hi Miss @TaxLadySusan can you please give me an insight on how to deal with this matter? Thank you so much in advance!

September 13, 2023

Thank you for your question.  Unfortunately, if the bank cannot stop the transaction, you will have to contact the IRS to request a reversal of the payment.  It is unlikely that they will do that.  You may get the money back in 2023 when you file your return as that additional money paid will likely put you in a refund situation.  A Roth contribution is not tax deductible so you would not receive the benefit from it on the return.  I understand, and it is unfortunate that the payment was classified incorrectly.  

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

September 13, 2023

Thank you for your promt response Ms Susan.

 

Will I get penalize for this? I know there's a 10% penalty if you dont put the money back within 60days to IRA account. 

Am I right?