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February 7, 2022
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What is the Form 3801 (Passive Activity Loss Limitations) for? Why do I have to file this

  • February 7, 2022
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February 7, 2022

Form 3801 is filed by individuals, estates, trusts, and S corporations that have losses (including prior year unallowed losses) from passive activities.

 

Passive activities include trade or business activities in which you don't materially participate. Home rentals, and limited partnership are considered examples of common passive activity.

The form won't be available until 2/10/2022 and can't be e-filed. California Individual Form Availability

 

2020 Instructions for Form FTB 3801

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February 11, 2022

California state tax form 3801 seems to still not be available.  Not until 3/3/2022?  Is this accurate?

February 11, 2022

That is the date given as of this time.

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February 23, 2022

The final CA 3801 form is available on  line. When will Turbo Tax implement it?

February 23, 2022

The form is available if you are going to download to complete on your own. However, e-filing is different.

Once the form is finalized, it has to be coded and tested for calculations and e-filing acceptability.

 

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February 23, 2022

For availability in TT now shows 2/24/2022

April 1, 2023

One related question to California Form 3801 I've been struggling to figure out:

- Part I - 1b: clearly this is meant to reflect the current tax year (2022) net loss amount

- Part I - 1c: it wasn't clear to me whether this should reflect ONLY the prior net loss amount from the immediate tax year before (2021) or if this should reflect the total carrying balance for all historical passive losses from ALL previous years (like in Federal Schedule E).

 

If Part I - 1c is meant to reflect the total carrying balance for all historical passive losses from all prior years - does anyone know how to update this in TT? The TT software filled in only the immediate tax year before (2021) figure in Part I - 1c.

 

Thanks!