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March 30, 2020
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After Tax IRA to Roth Conversion Tax Question

  • March 30, 2020
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I have 3 IRAs

1. A traditional IRA funded by pre-tax $

2. A traditional IRA funded by after tax $

3. A Roth IRA

 

Based on recent market declines, I am planning to convert the pre-tax $ traditional IRA to a Roth, which I understand will incur taxes.

 

In addition, the value of the traditional IRA funded by after tax $ is currently worth less than the cost basis of the $ I have contributed to it over the years. 

 

Question:  If I convert the after tax IRA to a Roth, can I use the the loss associated with the difference between my cost basis for this account and the after tax IRA’s market value to off set the taxes from the Roth conversion of my pre-tax IRA?

 

If so

- Is the “loss” on my after tax IRA treated as a capital loss in terms of being able to carry it over year to year until it is used up? 

- How do I report these transactions in my taxes?

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    March 30, 2020

    Generally, you cannot offset losses because your IRA basis is the total basis for all traditional IRA accounts combined together. This prevents manipulation by a taxpayer trying to use the basis for one IRA account to offset withdrawals from another account.

     

    If you convert both traditional IRA account completely then you will use up your basis and only the amount over the basis will be taxable income. If you convert only parts of your traditional IRA accounts, then the basis will be prorated between the conversion and the value remaining in the IRA accounts.

     

    You will get Form 1099-R for the conversion and enter it following the steps below. After you entered all your 1099-R, TurboTax will ask follow-up questions and you will be able to enter your total basis for all your traditional IRAs. The next question will ask about the value of all your traditional IRAs. That is so the prorating of the basis can be properly proportioned between the current year's distribution and the remaining IRA value. 

     

    To enter Form 1099-R:

    1. Log into TurboTax
    2. Click "Federal" from the left side of your screen
    3. Scroll down to “Retirement Plans and Social Security” and click “Show more
    4. Scroll down and click "Start" next to "IRA, 401(k), Pension Plan Withdrawals (1099-R)
    5. Answer "Yes" to the question "Did You Have Any of These Types of Income?"
    6. Click "I'll Type it Myself"
    7. Choose "Form 1099-R, Withdrawal of Money from 401(k) Retirement Plans, Pensions, IRAs, etc."
    8. Click "Continue" and enter the information from your 1099-R
    9. Answer questions until you get to “What Did You Do With The Money” and choose “I moved it to another retirement account
    10. Then choose “I converted all of this money to a Roth IRA account.”
    11. On the "Your 1099-R Entries" screen click "continue"
    12. Answer "yes" to "Any nondeductible Contributions to your IRA?"
    13. Answer the questions about the basis
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