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June 3, 2019
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Child care expense question: We pay our Mother (child's grandmother) $850 a month to watch our baby. Can we count this as a childcare expense?

  • June 3, 2019
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We don't withhold taxes as she not considered a "nanny".  If we are allowed to deducted this amount which will be less than $11k, will she have to report the income?  She didn't work in 2014, so this was her only source of income.  We have cancelled checks as record of payment.

Best answer by Hal_Al

Yes. But, if you claim the dependent care credit, she will have to claim the money as income  and pay social security and medicare tax (15.3%), as well as income tax.

If she babysat in your home, instead of hers, she is classified as a household employee. Grandparents (parent of the taxpayer) are exempt from the "Nanny tax". That is, she will not have to pay social security and medicare tax. But the  income is still subject to some  income tax. 

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Hal_Al
Hal_AlAnswer
Employee
June 3, 2019

Yes. But, if you claim the dependent care credit, she will have to claim the money as income  and pay social security and medicare tax (15.3%), as well as income tax.

If she babysat in your home, instead of hers, she is classified as a household employee. Grandparents (parent of the taxpayer) are exempt from the "Nanny tax". That is, she will not have to pay social security and medicare tax. But the  income is still subject to some  income tax. 

June 3, 2019
If I claim my parent for dependent care credit & she lives with us as a household employee, does the “nanny tax” still apply? Or is FICA still paid because she is claimed for dependent care credit?
June 3, 2019
Commonly when you are asked to list the care provider for you son/daughter it asks dor their SSN, address, info this is to in some cases connect the dot between what you payed her in the year and what she claims. But usually it only comes in to effect when you try to claim a large amount of child care expenses say $10K+  per year. It could benefit you to add this but could also trouble you if not done correctly.
July 20, 2019
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August 6, 2019

I also have the same question but with additional nuances.  My girlfriend and I have a baby and we are paying her mother monthly for helping us take care of the child (she also lives with us for this reason).  I will be claiming the child tax credit for him since i will be itemizing my returns but i wont be taking the dependent care credit (since I dont want to pay social security or Medicare taxes hopefully).  Will I be able to consider her as a family member (grandmother of my child) since shes my girlfriends mother, or will she be considered an independent contractor?  

 

I am also wondering if I can put money into a flexible spending account with my employer to pay her with pretax.  A family member being paid for childcare should qualify as a childcare related expense right?  (Especially if she has to still file income taxes regardless of if I qualify for the nanny tax exemption or not).  

Hal_Al
Employee
August 6, 2019

@M3gatr0n8 

Q. Will I be able to consider her as a family member (grandmother of my child) since shes my girlfriends mother, or will she be considered an independent contractor?  

A.  She is not a family member because she is not related to the taxpayer (you), even though she is related to the child.  Someone will have to pay her social security or Medicare (FICA) taxes. If you and she agree to do so,  she can be considered an independent contractor and pay her own FICA, in the form of self employment tax.

 

Q. I am also wondering if I can put money into a flexible spending account  (FSA) with my employer to pay her with pretax?

A. Yes.  whether your childcare provider is a  family member, or not, is not relevant. She has to still file income taxes regardless of if you qualify for the nanny tax exemption or not (you don't) or whether you pay with FSA funds or not.  

November 10, 2019

I have a similar question. My mum babysits my daughter & i pay her $150 weekly.my mum is above 65 yrs & this is her only source of income. I will not be using her as a dependent on my taxes. So my question is will I still be elegible for the child tax credit & FSA Depedent?

Critter
Employee
November 10, 2019

Read the earlier posts in this thread ... your question was already answered. 

November 14, 2019

Hi Critter i did read all the responses and none of them mentioned if the childtax credit and dependent care expenses can be taken together. So if am missing any thing can you direct me to where the right answer is

November 16, 2021

If a taxpayers parent babysits their grandchildren in the taxpayers home and the taxpayer pays their parents/child’s grandparents they are exempt from nanny tax? Does the taxpayer need to 1099 their parent for amounts paid? Is the taxpayer able to claim these amounts paid as care expenses in terms of the dependent care credit?

Employee
November 16, 2021

@cbusa wrote:

If a taxpayers parent babysits their grandchildren in the taxpayers home and the taxpayer pays their parents/child’s grandparents they are exempt from nanny tax? Does the taxpayer need to 1099 their parent for amounts paid? Is the taxpayer able to claim these amounts paid as care expenses in terms of the dependent care credit?


If the caregiver works in your home, they are your household employee.  You are required to collect and pay the nanny tax unless an exemption applies.  You ARE exempt from paying the household employee tax (nanny tax) if the employee is your parent.  You are not required to withhold federal and state income tax, but you may if you want to.  You must issue the employee a W-2 at the end of the year.  There are several web sites that will issue an electronic W-2 to the employee and e-file the required W-2 and W-3 copies to the IRS and social security administration for a small fee, usually around $5.  

 

You would never issue a 1099-MISC or 1099-NEC.  If the caregiver is working in their home, they are an independent contractor and are responsible for their own taxes.  Only businesses have to issue 1099s, private individuals do not.  If they are working in your home they are a household employee and you must issue a W-2 if you pay more than $2200 over the year.  If you pay less than $2200, you do not need to issue a W-2, but the employee must still report their income.  

 

To claim the child and dependent care credit, you must pay a qualifying caregiver to care for a qualifying dependent while you (and your spouse if married) are working.  A grandparent can be a qualifying person for the dependent care credit; however, the grandparent is not a qualifying person if you can claim the grandparent as your dependent (such as because they live with you or you provide most of their financial support). If you are audited, you would need receipts or canceled checks to show what you paid to the grandparent for childcare.   You need the caregiver's social security number to claim the credit.  The IRS will use that SSN to look for matching income on the caregiver's tax return.

February 22, 2022

We pay my wife’s sister to watch our child at our house but she is 19 and her parents claim her on Taxes. Can we still use the child expenses on our taxes or would that mess up my wife’s fathers taxes? I forgot to mention that this would mostly be under 2k that we paid her last year.

Hal_Al
Employee
February 22, 2022

Q. Can we still use the child expenses on our taxes?

A.  Yes, you can claim the dependent care credit.  You will have to provide her SS#. 

 

Q. Will that mess up my wife’s father's taxes?

A. No. It has no effect because the amount is not enough to change the sister's dependent status, assuming she has little or no other income or is a full time student.

 

Q. Will effect the sister's taxes?

A.  No. It is not enough to have to file (because she sat in your home)  unless she has sufficient other income.

 A dependent child  must file a tax return for 2021 if he had any of the following:

  1.          Total income (wages, salaries, taxable scholarship etc.) of more than $12,550 (2021).
  2.          Unearned income (interest, dividends, capital gains, unemployment) of more than $1100.
  3.          Unearned income over $350 and gross income of more than $1100
  4.          Household employee income (e.g. baby sitting, lawn mowing) over $2300 ($12,550 if under age 18)
  5.          Other self employment income over $432, including money on a form 1099-NEC
February 24, 2022

So my in-laws watch my kids at their house.  We pay them $125 per week to help us out.  

Obviously we can claim the child care expense.  How does this effect their taxes?

How much would they end up paying in taxes?  It would be $6500 for the year.

This is their only form of income besides social security.

Thanks,

 

 

January 23, 2024

So, if I paid my mother $40/week to watch my kids while I’m working no W2 is required? It’s a little under $2200/yr 

January 23, 2024

IRS Publication 503 Child and Dependent Care Expenses, page 8, states:

 

Payments to Relatives or Dependents 

 

You can count work-related payments you make to relatives who aren't your dependents, even if they live in your home. However, don't count any amounts you pay to: 

 

  1. A person for whom you (or your spouse if filing jointly) can claim as a dependent; 
  2. Your child (including stepchild or foster child) who was under age 19 at the end of the year, even if he or she isn't your dependent; 
  3. A person who was your spouse any time during the year; or 
  4. The parent of your qualifying person if your qualifying person is your child and under age 13.

IRS form 2241 Child and Dependent Care Expenses requires that you disclose the name, address and social security number of the care provider rather than prepare a W-2.

 

See also this TurboTax Help.

 

@Tinkvick 

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