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Dependent Care Expense account reported in Box 10 as Dependent Care Benefits?

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My employer withholds $5000 from my pay which I can then use to pay dependent care expenses. They reported it on my W2 as $5000 in Dependent Care Benefits, so it's being subtracted from my $6000 expense eligible for deduction.  So if I had paid taxes on the $5000 instead of putting it in dependent care account, I could have deducted the full $6000? How can that be right?
Best answer by AnnaB

No, you would not have been able to deduct $6,000.  Please refer to the details below.

First, when you put money from your paycheck into Dependent Care Benefits (generally a Dependent Care Flexible Spending Account (FSA)), you did not pay income taxes on these amounts.  They were taken out before all other taxes which means you saved not only income tax, but also Social Security and Medicare which is an additional 7.65%.  Therefore, you essentially already deducted the $5,000 and received a tax benefit for it.  The amount of your FSA contributions is not included in Box 1 taxable wages on your Form W-2.  That is why it is reported separately in Box 10 because it is only taxable if you don't have the eligible expenses to cover it.  Therefore, it is correct that this is deducted from your eligible expenses in figuring your credit to avoid double dipping of tax benefits since you've already received a benefit on these amounts.

Next, the Child and Dependent Care Credit is not a deduction from income.  The amount is a credit against your tax liability of 20-35% (depending on your income) of eligible expenses.  In your case, you have an extra $1,000 to calculate your credit based off.  Had you not used the Dependent Care Benefits, then you would have had $6,000 in dependent care expenses.  However, you need to look at all factors to determine where the best benefit is.

Please see the following calculations - these are assuming the 25% tax bracket and that you qualify for a 20% Child and Dependent Care Credit (once you exceed $43,000 of adjusted gross income - which is actually lowered due to your Dependent Care contributions - 20% is the maximum credit).  Note that putting funds in the Dependent Care FSA lowers your adjusted gross income and could allow for a higher credit percentage.

  • By putting $5,000 into your Dependent Care FSA, you saved 25% ($5,000 x 25% = $1,250) as well as 7.65% for Social Security and Medicare ($5,000 x 7.65% = $383) - this is a total of $1,633 saved before the credit
  • Next, you have $1,000 in excess expenses to calculate your credit - 20% of this is $200 for a total tax savings between the pre-tax contributions and the credit of $1,833
  • Now, say you did not put any money into the Dependent Care FSA with pre-tax funds and used the full $6,000 for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.  You would get 20% of $6,000 which is only $1,200.
  • Therefore, you actually saved an extra $633 in this specific scenario (income tax bracket and credit bracket).  However, in general, it will usually work out to be beneficial or the same.

One of the primary things that would impact this calculation is the tax bracket.  Even if you were in the 15% tax bracket, you would still have saved $1,333 in total by using your Dependent Care FSA which is still higher than using the full $6,000 for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.

Note: If you had more than $6,000 in expenses, you should enter all of your expenses.  The $6,000 (with 2 qualifying dependents) is the limit for the credit but you can still enter your total expenses. 

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AnnaBAnswer
Employee
June 1, 2019

No, you would not have been able to deduct $6,000.  Please refer to the details below.

First, when you put money from your paycheck into Dependent Care Benefits (generally a Dependent Care Flexible Spending Account (FSA)), you did not pay income taxes on these amounts.  They were taken out before all other taxes which means you saved not only income tax, but also Social Security and Medicare which is an additional 7.65%.  Therefore, you essentially already deducted the $5,000 and received a tax benefit for it.  The amount of your FSA contributions is not included in Box 1 taxable wages on your Form W-2.  That is why it is reported separately in Box 10 because it is only taxable if you don't have the eligible expenses to cover it.  Therefore, it is correct that this is deducted from your eligible expenses in figuring your credit to avoid double dipping of tax benefits since you've already received a benefit on these amounts.

Next, the Child and Dependent Care Credit is not a deduction from income.  The amount is a credit against your tax liability of 20-35% (depending on your income) of eligible expenses.  In your case, you have an extra $1,000 to calculate your credit based off.  Had you not used the Dependent Care Benefits, then you would have had $6,000 in dependent care expenses.  However, you need to look at all factors to determine where the best benefit is.

Please see the following calculations - these are assuming the 25% tax bracket and that you qualify for a 20% Child and Dependent Care Credit (once you exceed $43,000 of adjusted gross income - which is actually lowered due to your Dependent Care contributions - 20% is the maximum credit).  Note that putting funds in the Dependent Care FSA lowers your adjusted gross income and could allow for a higher credit percentage.

  • By putting $5,000 into your Dependent Care FSA, you saved 25% ($5,000 x 25% = $1,250) as well as 7.65% for Social Security and Medicare ($5,000 x 7.65% = $383) - this is a total of $1,633 saved before the credit
  • Next, you have $1,000 in excess expenses to calculate your credit - 20% of this is $200 for a total tax savings between the pre-tax contributions and the credit of $1,833
  • Now, say you did not put any money into the Dependent Care FSA with pre-tax funds and used the full $6,000 for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.  You would get 20% of $6,000 which is only $1,200.
  • Therefore, you actually saved an extra $633 in this specific scenario (income tax bracket and credit bracket).  However, in general, it will usually work out to be beneficial or the same.

One of the primary things that would impact this calculation is the tax bracket.  Even if you were in the 15% tax bracket, you would still have saved $1,333 in total by using your Dependent Care FSA which is still higher than using the full $6,000 for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.

Note: If you had more than $6,000 in expenses, you should enter all of your expenses.  The $6,000 (with 2 qualifying dependents) is the limit for the credit but you can still enter your total expenses. 

October 10, 2019

My apologies if I am misunderstanding this. I participated in flex dependent expense plan through my employer. They deducted the amounts in each paycheck - therefore I did not pay any taxes on it. However, when filing my taxes via turbotax, it appears to add it back into W2 wages via form 2441 and placed on line 1....essentially creating a larger taxable income. Why is it added back in? Or where do achieve the benefit? It looks like it just deferred my tax liability until tax filing. Hope this makes sense. Thanks.

Critter
Employee
October 11, 2019

Ok ... if it was added back into income then you did NOT enter in any qualifying expenses in the Dependent Care Credit section ... review that area to confirm you entered the day care expenses correctly. 

January 29, 2021

I realize this is an old post but exactly matches my question so I’m hoping someone can help!

We also put $5000 in a FSA pre tax for dependent care, but we pay about $19000 in child care each year. 
So 20% of $19000 is $3800 which would mean we qualify for a $3000 credit right? 

So am I correct that we would save more if we didn’t take the $5000 out pretax? (Assuming the 25% tax bracket used in the calculation.)

January 29, 2021

No, the maximum amount that can apply to the Child and Dependent Care credit is $6,000, no matter how much you spend. And that's only if you have two or more kids (if you have just the one, the limit is $3,000).

 

In short, that means that you get no tax benefit for the other $13,000 ($19,000 minus $6,000) that you spend, neither a deduction nor a credit.

 

In a sense, there is no Child and Dependent Care deduction. All there is is the opportunity to exclude up to $5,000 from your Wages in box 1 of your W-2 (the amount in box 10 is removed from box 1 before your W-2 is printed).

 

Why $5,000? Because that is the largest amount you can contribute to a dependent care FSA in one year. In many cases, this leaves $1,000 left over to apply to the credit.

 

You are correct to wonder which method (exclusion or credit) results in a better result for you. The answer is, it depends. The results vary based on the number of qualifying kids, your marginal tax rate, and your adjusted gross income.

 

Please see this TurboTax Help page on this subject to see if it helps. 

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January 29, 2021

Ah, I think my confusion was thinking the credit was up to $3000 rather than the amount that is used to calculate the credit. 

So 35% of $3000 ($1050) would be the max amount anyone would receive from the credit with one child, right?

February 4, 2022

@DawnC 

Why would I have an amount in box 10 if I didnt ask for an fsa? I dont have any dependents. Its just myself. How can I fix that?

February 4, 2022

You need to take this up with your payroll department. Once TurboTax sees an amount in box 10, it has to assume that you have a Dependent Care FSA.

 

You may need a corrected W-2 from your employer.

 

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February 22, 2022

Ok. So I have been reading through the posts on this topic and decided to look up a few things on Box 10 from the IRS website. The below reference says "Box 10 of your W-2 shows the total amount of dependent care benefits that your employer paid to you or incurred on your behalf. Amounts over $10,500 ($5,250 in the case of a separate return filed by a married individual) are also included in box 1.

 

The bolded statement is where my confusion comes in.  My employer does NOT pay for my FSA, it comes out of my paycheck. Is the information on the IRS website wrong? Should my W2 be corrected?

 

https://www.irs.gov/faqs/interest-divid[product key removed]-of-income/employee-reimbursements-form-w-2-wage-inquiries/employee-reimbursements-form-w-2-wage-inquiries