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help with mortgage interest limit

  • April 8, 2021
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hi

 

i need help to understand the average mortgage balance calculation. the 1mil/750000 cap is easy to understand but not how to calculate the average (or im not understanding).

We moved twice last year, selling first our property in VA in april and then our FL house in November and moving inbetween to our current home. mortgage balanced was as follows :

 janfebmaraprilmayjunjulaugsepoctnovdec
house 1.
sold april15th
329000328000327000326000        
house 2.
sold nov 15th
303000302500302000301500301000300500300000299500299000298500298000 
house 3.
bought sep 1st
        510000509124508247507367


when entering my 1098s with TT it tells me to take standard deduction despite my interest > 18000$ and capped at the 10000$ state taxes....  what it looks like its doing it adding up the loan balance to > 1.13mil and reducing effect of the interest to ~ 65% making standard deduction better but is this really right?.

pub 936 got me more confused honestly...  

if i do the math by hand i get an average of 554 but am i doing it right? below how i sum up the monthly balances and average it out :

 janfebmaraprilmayjunjulaugsepoctnovdec  
house 1. sold april15th329000328000327000326000          
house 2.
sold nov 15th
303000302500302000301500301000300500300000299500299000298500298000   
house 3.
bought sep 1st
        510000509124508247507367  
               
balance janfebmaraprilmayjunjulaugsepoctnovdec avg
balance sum632000630500629000627500301000300500300000299500809000807624806247507367 554186.5


so i get average of 554186.5 and think i should be able to deduct the full mortgage interest.
am i wrong, or is TT doing the math wrong for me?


Best answer by NCPERSON1

see if this post helps....someone else had a similar question earlier tonight 

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deductible-home-mortgage-interest-with-multiple-homes/01/2181157#M204077

 

your 12 point average is the way to go.... i try to explain the Mr. Blue example in pub  536......

 

just take the interest on each mortgage and divide back by its respective interest rate... do not adjust for the number of months the mortgage was outstanding.  THAT is the balance you use as the 'average balance' for each loan - you should get a result that is very similar to how you laid out the 12 point average 

 

 

 

 

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April 8, 2021

see if this post helps....someone else had a similar question earlier tonight 

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/tax-credits-deductions/discussion/re-deductible-home-mortgage-interest-with-multiple-homes/01/2181157#M204077

 

your 12 point average is the way to go.... i try to explain the Mr. Blue example in pub  536......

 

just take the interest on each mortgage and divide back by its respective interest rate... do not adjust for the number of months the mortgage was outstanding.  THAT is the balance you use as the 'average balance' for each loan - you should get a result that is very similar to how you laid out the 12 point average 

 

 

 

 

April 8, 2021

thank you, this made me understand it, now i just have to figure out how to get TT to accept this. it looks like i need to zero out box 2 for each of the 1098's where the loan has been paid off for it to calculate correctly....

March 17, 2022

@turbotax - how do we do the 'Interest Paid Divided by Interest Rate Method' from IRS Pub 936 in Turbotax?

 

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p936#en_US_2021_publink[phone number removed]