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Question regarding a Form 1099R

  • March 13, 2023
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Hello - in October 2022 I opened an IRA traditional with $2000 by mistake (I meant to open an IRA Roth). Later in December I asked the financial institution where I opened it to transfer or convert the $2000 into an IRA Roth. The financial institution opened an IRA Roth and transferred the funds from the IRA Traditional and closed it. I received a Form 1099R which shows the $2000 in Box 1 and Box 2a. It also shows an "X" in Box 2b "Taxable amount not determined". And it shows Code 7 "Normal distribution" in Box 7. It looks to me that I will be responsible for paying taxes on the $2000 even though I never withdrew the funds, it was just a transfer from the IRA Traditional to the IRA Roth. I contacted the financial institution and they said the Form 1099R I received is correct, that they need to report the $2000 as a normal distribution. They also mentioned that I might need to file Form 8606. Do I need to file Form 8606? Should I expect the financial institution to send me a corrected Form 1099R? How should I enter the information on Form 1099R in Turbo-Tax? Any feedback or guidance will be greatly appreciated it. Thanks!!

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    March 13, 2023

    Yes, you will have to file Form 8606 for the conversion. Yes, generally conversions are taxable unless you had a basis (nondeductible contributions) in your traditional IRA.

     

    No, you don't need a corrected Form 1099-R, your Form is correct.

     

    You will enter the traditional IRA contribution in TurboTax and can make it nondeductible (this will create a basis):

     

    1. Open your return
    2. Click “Deductions &Credits” on the top
    3. Click "I'll choose what to work on"
    4. Scroll down to “Traditional and Roth IRA Contributions” and click “Start
    5. Select “traditional IRA
    6. Answer “No” to “Is This a Repayment of a Retirement Distribution?
    7. Enter the amount you contributed
    8. Answer “No” to the recharacterized question on the “Did You Change Your Mind?” screen
    9. Answer the next questions until you get to “Any Nondeductible Contributions to Your IRA?” and select “Yes” if you had nondeductible contributions before this tax year
    10. Enter your basis in the Traditional IRA from your 2021 Form 8606 line 14 (if you had a basis in the prior year)
    11. On the “Choose Not to Deduct IRA Contributions” screen choose “Yes, make part of my IRA contribution nondeductible” and enter the amount (if you have a retirement plan at work and are over the income limit it will be nondeductible automatically and you only get a warning and then a screen saying $0 is deductible).

     

    To enter the form 1099-R for the conversion:

     

    1. Click "Federal Taxes" on the top and select "Wages & Income"
    2. Click "I'll choose what to work on"
    3. Scroll down and click "Start" next to "IRA, 401(k), Pension Plan (1099-R)
    4. Answer "Yes" to the question "Did You Have Any of These Types of Income?"
    5. Click "I'll Type it Myself"
    6. Choose "Form 1099-R, Withdrawal of Money from 401(k) Retirement Plans, Pensions, IRAs, etc."
    7. Click "Continue" and enter the information from your 1099-R
    8. Answer questions until you get to “What Did You Do With The Money” and choose “I moved it to another retirement account
    9. Then choose “I did a combination of rolling over, converting, or cashing out money.” and enter the amount next to "Amount converted to a Roth IRA account"
    10. On the "Your 1099-R Entries" screen click "continue"
    11. Answer "yes" to "Any nondeductible Contribution to your IRA?" if you had any nondeductible contributions in prior years.
    12. Answer the questions about the basis from line 14 of your 2021 Form 8606 and the value of all traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs

     

     

     

    Please be aware you had pre-tax funds in any of your traditional/SEP/SIMPLE IRAs then the pro-rata rule applies. This means that with each distribution/ conversion you will have a taxable and nontaxable part. You can see the remaining basis on line 14 of Form 8606, this basis can be carried forward. Therefore, each distribution/conversion in the future will have a taxable and nontaxable part until the basis is all used.

     

     

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    ri-solanoAuthor
    March 13, 2023

    Thank you DanaB27 for the steps below. Will work on this. I believe that Turbotax will create Form 8606 in my return, is that right? 

    March 13, 2023

    We'll automatically generate and fill out Form 8606 (Nondeductible IRAs) if you reported any of these on your tax return:

    • Nondeductible contributions made to a traditional IRA
    • Distributions from a traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRA that had nondeductible contributions (excluding rollovers, conversions, recharacterizations, qualified charitable distributions, one-time distribution to fund an HSA, or return of certain contributions)
    • Conversions from a traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRA to a Roth IRA
    • Distributions from a Roth IRA (other than rollovers, recharacterizations, or a return of certain contributions)

    Here's more info on How to Trigger Form 8606

     

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    LindaS5247
    March 15, 2023

    From reading your responses you are correct, you do not have anything to report with respect to 2021.

     

    It was correct to select "No to "Any Non-Deductible Contributions to your IRA" with respect to 2021.

     

    A Form 8606 is required for the conversion (IRA to Roth IRA, which is a taxable event) and should be automatically generated by TurboTax when you answered these questions discussed above.

     

    You should be able to view your Form 8606 by Previewing/Printing your Form 1040.

     

    You can preview your return in the TurboTax Online by following these steps:

    1. Sign in to your TurboTax account
    2. Open or continue your return
    3. Select Tax Tools from the menu (if you don't see this, select the menu icon in the upper-left corner)
    4. With the Tax Tools menu open, you can then:
      1. Preview your entire return: Select Print Center and then Print, save or preview this year's return (you may be asked to register or pay first)
      2. View only your 1040 form: Select Tools. Next, select View Tax Summary in the pop-up, then Preview my 1040 in the left menu


    You can preview your return in the TurboTax CD/Download software by following these steps:

    1. With your return open in TurboTax, select Preview from the File menu at the top. (If you don't see "Preview," open your return, not just the program).
    2. In the pop-up window, choose the set of forms you wish to see (all official forms, specific forms, etc.) and select Preview.
    3. Scroll down to view all the forms if you chose to preview multiple forms.


    If you are using TurboTax Desktop Version you should be able to see your Form 8606 by doing the following:
    1. Sign into your account and select your current return

    2. Select Tax Tools and then Tools (see attached tax tools)

    3. Select Topic Search (see attached image)

    4. Search for 8606 and select go

     

     

    If this does not resolve your issue please feel free to contact us here on TurboTax Community or click here for information on Turbo Tax Support.  You can talk to a Live Agent and share your screen.  

     

    Click here for detailed information on Form 8606, Nondeductible IRA's.

     

     

     

     

     


     

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    ri-solanoAuthor
    March 16, 2023

    Hello LindaS5247 -thank so very much for your message. I greatly appreciate that you looked at all the responses in this chain of messages. I was able to navigate the forms based on the steps you outlined. Very pleased with your help!! Excellent service!! Regards.