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my son is 19 and going to college. He made W-2, $4,125 in summer job.  On a 1098-T, Received $1,695 in box 1 (payments received for qualified tuition and related expenses) and $2,740 in scholarships in box 5 (Scholarships or grants).  He also received a 529 from his grandpa on a 1099-Q for $8,304.  Do I put that all on my tax return or does he do a separate one even though I am claiming him on my taxes ?

 

If I put it on my taxes which ones do I input and where. (Can he do a seperate file for his W-2 and I use the 1098-T and 1099-Q on mine ?  

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    KrisD15
    April 13, 2022

    If you claim the student, you would enter the forms into your program to apply for an education credit, however if tuition was only 1,695 (box 1) and he received 2,740 in scholarships, plus another 8,304 in a distribution, there would be more aid than tuition and the student would end up claiming income. 

     

    Is there more to the story? 

    Was the distribution used for room and board? 

    That would still leave scholarship income. 

    Did he buy books or supplies? 

     

    Again, you enter the education forms into your program so that your program can do the math, but you also need to have an idea about what payments went where, if anything crossed tax years and if you want the student to claim more income if that would allow you to get a credit. 

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    Hal_Al
    Employee
    April 13, 2022

     Q.  Do I put that all on my tax return or does he do a separate one even though I am claiming him on my taxes ?

    A. No.  The 1099-Q  goes on Grandpa or the student's return depending on who was the  "recipient". 

     

    Q.  If I put it on my taxes which ones do I input and where. (Can he do a separate file for his W-2 and I use the 1098-T and 1099-Q on mine) ?  

    A.  Maybe. Based on the rough numbers, you probably put nothing about education on your return.  But, as the other reply indicated, more info is needed.  In addition to room and board and books and computer cost, we need to know if the scholarship was restricted to being used for tuition.

     

    Here's how it usually works: you use the tuition and other qualified expenses (books and required computer) to claim the education credit (it's worth $1695+ to you).  You offset some  the 529 distribution with other available expenses (mainly room & board) and the student pays tax on his scholarship and the uncovered portion of the 529 distribution. 

    Provide the following info for more specific help:

    • Are you the student or parent.
    • Is the  student  the parent's dependent.
    • Box 1 of the 1098-T
    • box 5 of the 1098-T
    • Any other scholarships not shown in box 5
    • Does box 5 include any of the 529/ESA plan payments (it should not)
    • Is any of the Scholarship restricted; i.e. it must be used for tuition
    • Box 1 of the 1099-Q
    • Box 2 of the 1099-Q
    • Who’s name and SS# are on the 1099-Q, grandparent or student (who’s the “recipient”)?
    • Room & board paid. If student lives off campus, what is school's R&B charge. 
    • Other qualified expenses not included in box 1 of the 1098-T, e.g. books & computers
    • How much taxable income does the student have, from what sources
    • Are you trying to claim the tuition credit (are you eligible)?
    • Is the student an undergrad or grad student?

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    You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

    On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

     

    If you do enter it, enter the 1099-Q before you enter the 1098-T and other expenses.

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    Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

    General Discussion

    It’s complicated.

    For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (grandparent in this case), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
    The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
    Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

    You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
    But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
    In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

     

    Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
    Example:
      $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

       -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

       -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

     =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

     

    Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

    Box 2 is $2800

    3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

    40% x 2800= $1120

    You have $1120 of taxable income  

     

    **Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

    On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

    ***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.

    rrich68Author
    April 16, 2022
    I am the parent. The student is my dependent. 1098-T box 1 and 5 have no 529 money included (just tuition credits and scholarships).
    So far, I put the 1098-T information onto my tax return including books and computer expenses and received education credit.
     
    The 1099-Q was from grandpa, but he put my son as the recipient, so my son got the 1099-Q in his name. 
    Now, I'm working on my son's return...his W-2 income was $4,120 and I added the 1099-Q of $8,304 box 1 Gross, $4,829 box 2 Earning and $3,475 box 3 Basis.  
     
    My son goes to a community college and they have no dorms, no on-site living so he had to rent an apartment off-campus walking distance.
    Up to this point with his W-2 income ($4,120) and 1099 income($8,304) equaling $12,431 it says I owe $833 to FED.  Now of the $8,304 from the 529 income, I'm trying to pay off Room and Board expenses which totaled $6,964.  Now it says FED refund of $32.  
     
    To verify, on my son's return I'm only showing his (W-2 + 1099-Q) - Room/Board ? (room and board paid with 529 money only)  I can show he's going to Clackamas Community College under expenses but leave the 1098-T info blank since I put that information (monies) on my tax return (the parent) as well as books/materials and computer for education credits.
    April 16, 2022

    If your son's name and SSN are not on the 1099-Q form, don't enter that form on his return. 

    Do not add your son's income to your tax return either. 

     

    @rrich68

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