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February 16, 2022
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Excess Scholarship and AOTC

  • February 16, 2022
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Sorry, I posted this earlier and wasn't able to follow the response. I read someone in a similar but not identical situation and they posted like I am doing now and I was better able to follow that response.  Please provide step by step; sorry not picking this up better.

 

The numbers:

$11,346 Payments to schools for qualified expenses

+ 1,078 Books purchased outside the school for classes

$12,424 Total qualified expenses paid

- 4,000 AOTC

$8,424

- 13,750 Scholarships not restricted to tuition

$ -5,326 What the child will end up claiming as taxable scholarship income

 

There were distributions from the child's ESA for Room & Board totaling $15,157 with $2,800 of that being paid directly to the student (the rest paid directly to the school).

 

Parent using TT Home and Biz desktop (Mac) and child using TT online and already filed (assume they will need to amend).

 

What is the process to be followed in both parent and child return (amendment)? A 1098-T was not provided but university says they will upon request. I don’t see an option in TT Home and Biz to say I qualify for an exception. Does this mean I have to request a 1098-T from the university?

 

Does it matter that I haven't located any info stating the scholarships must be used for tuition?

 

Thanks.

 

    1 reply

    KrisD15
    February 16, 2022

    You do not necessarily need a 1098-T if the school did not send you one as long as you have the school's Federal Employer Identification Number (EIN). 

     

    Be sure you have school account records showing the charges and payments. Keep this with your tax file. Make sure you are only using/claiming expenses PAID in 2021 for expenses incurred in 2021 and/or the first 3 months of 2022 only. Also make sure the scholarships are not restricted to be used for a particular expense. 

     

    I am not clear about the distribution. I am assuming the 1099-Q was issued to the student and the total, including the 2,800 that went to the student, was used for education expenses. 

     

    The 1098-T is for computing the credit, since you already know what you want to claim, you COULD enter the "mock" 1098-T with the 4,000 in Box 1 into your TurboTax program. Finish the Education interview as if the 4,000 was the only expense and there were no scholarships and/or financial aid. Done. You should get the American Opportunity Tax Credit if all other requirements are met. 

     

    The student enters the 5,326 as income on their 1040 line 1. 

     

    STUDENT:

    Sign into TurboTax and continue through until you can start selecting "Wages & Income" located at the top of the screen

     

    Click on Wages & Income

     

    (If the program asks about your W2, select Skip for now or enter any W2 you may have )

     

    Select answers to the following questions if necessary to move forward 

     

    Click Add more income 

     

    Scroll down to the VERY LAST option "Less Common Income" and click Show more

     

    On this new drop-down list scroll down to the VERY LAST option "Miscellaneous Income" and click START 

     

    On this new drop-down list scroll to the VERY FIRST option "Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or Form 1099"

     

    Click START

     

    Select YES to the page titled "Other Wages Received" and Continue

     

    Select CONTINUE on the "Wages earned as a Household Employee" screen (enter nothing here)

     

    Select CONTINUE on the "Sick or Disability Pay" screen (enter nothing here)

     

    Select "Yes" on the "Any Other Earned Income" screen and continue

     

    Select "Other" on the "Enter Source of Other Earned Income" and Continue

     

    In Description Box type "SCH" and the amount

     

    Click Done 

     

     This will put the income on the 1040 line 1 where it needs to be.

     

    The 1099-Q needn't be entered on any return if the total distribution was used for education expenses, including room and board

    If there is taxable income from the 1099-Q, you can enter the 1099-Q on the student's return. Also enter how much was used for education expenses and that the student received a scholarship. The earning portion of the distribution not used for education will be taxed, but the penalty tax will be waived because of the scholarship. 

     

    According to the IRS:

    "If you file Form 1040 or 1040-SR, include the taxable amount in the total on line 1. If the taxable amount was not reported on Form W-2, also enter “SCH” and the taxable amount on the dotted line next to line 1."

     

    IRS PUB 970 has some other examples of how the credits can work. 

     

    IRS PUB 970

     

     

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    sonofdodAuthor
    February 16, 2022

    Thanks for this info.

     

    I think I'm with you on the student entering $5,326 because the parent is entering $1,078 for books next to "Books and materials not required to be purchased from the school" - correct?  The parents education summary now shows $5,078 for expenses and scholarships on the deductions and credits page.  Or, do I have this wrong and the child is entering $1,078 for books and, if so, where?  Or is nobody entering the $1,078 for books?

     

    $13,750 scholarship - $12,424 tuition and books = $5,326 on the child return as income

     

    Is it a problem that the child already filed and did not include this income?  The child apparently cannot amend until some time in March.  I suppose the parent should wait to file after the child amends?