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December 29, 2024
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Value of IRA fund at end of year? Why is this question being asked by TT

  • December 29, 2024
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TT Online is asking me a question on my trad. IRA that I don't previously remember being asked.  The cost basis has been inputed but the next question is to determine "value" of my IRA account at end of 2024.  It also refers to form 5498, which details a Fair Market Value at end of year, but which I generally don't receive until May and which I am pretty certain has a note that details it's not a required form for a tax return.    It's easy enough for me to answer the question but I don't understand why it's being asked?  Any advice?

Best answer by dmertz

There are two separate areas of your tax return where the year-end value of your traditional IRAs might be needed.  First, if you've made an excess contribution to your traditional IRAs, the year-end value is needed to determine the penalty since the penalty determined on Form 5329 is 6% of the lesser of the excess or they year-end value.  Second, the year-end value is needed if you made any taxable distributions from your traditional IRAs and you have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, where the taxable amount needs to be determined on Form 8606.  In this second case, TurboTax might ask for the year end value before actually determining if Form 8606 is needed.  TurboTax asks for the year-end value separately for these cases, so it might ask twice and, if so, would need to be entered twice (or maybe even three times if you also have Roth IRAs that might have excess contributions and TurboTax needs to know the year-end value of your Roth IRAs).

 

Failing to provide the year-end value when TurboTax asks for it could result in an incorrectly prepared Form 5329 or Form 8606.  Also, jumping around in the TurboTax entry process could result in skipping the question when the value is actually needed, and TurboTax generally fails to catch and alert you about such an omission.

 

The IRA custodian is required to include the year-end value on your IRA year-end statement, so that's where you would typically look for the year-end value since the Form 5498 which reports the year-end value to the IRS is often not issued in time to help in preparing your tax return.

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Richard67Author
December 29, 2024

typo above...I mean "total basis" not "cost basis"

dmertzAnswer
Employee
December 29, 2024

There are two separate areas of your tax return where the year-end value of your traditional IRAs might be needed.  First, if you've made an excess contribution to your traditional IRAs, the year-end value is needed to determine the penalty since the penalty determined on Form 5329 is 6% of the lesser of the excess or they year-end value.  Second, the year-end value is needed if you made any taxable distributions from your traditional IRAs and you have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, where the taxable amount needs to be determined on Form 8606.  In this second case, TurboTax might ask for the year end value before actually determining if Form 8606 is needed.  TurboTax asks for the year-end value separately for these cases, so it might ask twice and, if so, would need to be entered twice (or maybe even three times if you also have Roth IRAs that might have excess contributions and TurboTax needs to know the year-end value of your Roth IRAs).

 

Failing to provide the year-end value when TurboTax asks for it could result in an incorrectly prepared Form 5329 or Form 8606.  Also, jumping around in the TurboTax entry process could result in skipping the question when the value is actually needed, and TurboTax generally fails to catch and alert you about such an omission.

 

The IRA custodian is required to include the year-end value on your IRA year-end statement, so that's where you would typically look for the year-end value since the Form 5498 which reports the year-end value to the IRS is often not issued in time to help in preparing your tax return.

Richard67Author
January 1, 2025

Thank you @dmertz very clear.