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Any tax implication for non-arm length real estate sales?

  • December 10, 2022
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Hi Community,

 

How are you?  A question.

 

My daughter wants to sell me her primary home for $600,000 in cash while her property value worth $850,000.   She sells me a low price because she knows that's all I can afford in cash.   She has no desire to sell it to anyone else because she wants her kids live near her grandma (i.e. me).

 

Anyhow, my daughter will use a portion of the $600,000 to pay down her current mortgage first, then take the remainder plus her own saving to buy a larger house (worth $1.3M) next door to suit her family needs.  

 

Is there any tax implication on both sides we need to be aware of or concerned? 

 

I look forward to hearing your advice and the knowledge very much.

 

Thank you.

 

 

  

 

    Best answer by Mike9241

    she'll have to file a gift tax return because she gifting you 1/4 million but there it's unlikely she'll have to pay a gift tax since the lifetime exclusion is in excess of $12 million.

    your basis for determining gain or loss if you sell.

    Where a transfer of property is in part a sale and in part a gift, the unadjusted basis of the property in your hands is the sum of -

    (1) Whichever of the following is the greater:

    (i) The amount paid by you for the property, or

    (ii) her adjusted basis for the property at the time of the transfer, and

    (2) The amount of increase, if any, in basis for gift tax paid (see § 1.1015-5).

    For determining loss, the unadjusted basis of the property in your hands shall not be greater than the fair market value of the property at the time of such transfer

     

    she has to report the sale on her tax return following these rules see example

    Where a transfer of property is in part a sale and in part a gift, she has a gain to the extent that the amount realized by her exceeds her adjusted basis in the property. However, no loss is deductible on such a transfer if the amount realized is less than the adjusted basis. 

    Example 
    She transfers property to you for $600,000. assume her basis in the property is $400,000 (and a fair market value of $850,000). her gain is $200,000, the excess of $600,000, the amount realized, over her basis of $400,000. she has made a gift of $250,000, the excess of $850,000, the fair market value, over the amount realized, $600,000. 

    if a gain, she will qualify for the home sale exclusion of $250,000 if she owned and occupied the house for any 2 out of up to 5 years before transfer.  

     

    better check with the mortgage company because most mortgages have a due-on-sale clause which means she'll have to pay off the full mortgage.  but it is up to the company. 

     

    while this can be done without a real estate attorney, the use of one is advisable so there are no surprises down the road, 

     

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    Mike9241Answer
    December 10, 2022

    she'll have to file a gift tax return because she gifting you 1/4 million but there it's unlikely she'll have to pay a gift tax since the lifetime exclusion is in excess of $12 million.

    your basis for determining gain or loss if you sell.

    Where a transfer of property is in part a sale and in part a gift, the unadjusted basis of the property in your hands is the sum of -

    (1) Whichever of the following is the greater:

    (i) The amount paid by you for the property, or

    (ii) her adjusted basis for the property at the time of the transfer, and

    (2) The amount of increase, if any, in basis for gift tax paid (see § 1.1015-5).

    For determining loss, the unadjusted basis of the property in your hands shall not be greater than the fair market value of the property at the time of such transfer

     

    she has to report the sale on her tax return following these rules see example

    Where a transfer of property is in part a sale and in part a gift, she has a gain to the extent that the amount realized by her exceeds her adjusted basis in the property. However, no loss is deductible on such a transfer if the amount realized is less than the adjusted basis. 

    Example 
    She transfers property to you for $600,000. assume her basis in the property is $400,000 (and a fair market value of $850,000). her gain is $200,000, the excess of $600,000, the amount realized, over her basis of $400,000. she has made a gift of $250,000, the excess of $850,000, the fair market value, over the amount realized, $600,000. 

    if a gain, she will qualify for the home sale exclusion of $250,000 if she owned and occupied the house for any 2 out of up to 5 years before transfer.  

     

    better check with the mortgage company because most mortgages have a due-on-sale clause which means she'll have to pay off the full mortgage.  but it is up to the company. 

     

    while this can be done without a real estate attorney, the use of one is advisable so there are no surprises down the road, 

     

    april4marAuthor
    December 11, 2022

    Mike0241.  Thank you so much.  I marked as the best answer.  Please correct me below to make sure if I understand you fully.    

     

    Here is more real data:

     

    Her adjusted basis for the property is $615,000 ($565K purchase price in 2016 plus home improvement I estimated about $50K).  She lives there since 2016.  Her mortgage is $375,000.  

    The amount paid by me for the property will be $600,000 in 2023.  She will pay off the mortgage of 375,000..

     

    1.  So there would no gain for her and she can't claim loss either if I understand you correctly.

    2.  When you mentioned she'll have to file a gift tax return, is it part of 1040 tax return or a separate gift tax return in addition to 1040 return?  Because of lifetime gift tax exclusion, it will not incur tax for her as I understand you.

    3.  My unadjusted basis for determining gain or loss if I sell in the future should be $615,000 in this case, correct?  

    4.  I actually don't understand the paragraph:  The amount of increase, if any, in basis for gift tax paid (see § 1.1015-5).  Does this apply to my case since no gift tax paid?  I thought not, so I didn't add to my unadjusted basis.

     

    Thank you for your advice for a real estate attorney.  Should we need a tax account also or more so?  Or real estate attorney will cover all?   

     

    Thank you for your patience with me.  I look forward to hearing from you again.

    December 11, 2022

    1.  So there would no gain for her and she can't claim loss either if I understand you correctly.

    correct. 

     

    2.  When you mentioned she'll have to file a gift tax return, is it part of 1040 tax return or a separate gift tax return in addition to 1040 return?  Because of lifetime gift tax exclusion, it will not incur tax for her as I understand you.

    That's a separate return (form 709) that Turbotax does not do. I assume she still has most if not all of her lifetime exclusion. it only gets used in years where gifts to a person exceeds the annual exclusion. she would have had to file gift tax returns for those years. 

    https://www.irs.gov/site-index-search?search=709&field_pup_historical_1=1&field_pup_historical=1 

     

     

    3.  My unadjusted basis for determining gain or loss if I sell in the future should be $615,000 in this case, correct?  

    correct  IRS reg 1.1015-4 and reg 1.1001-1(e)

     

     

    4.  I actually don't understand the paragraph:  The amount of increase, if any, in basis for gift tax paid (see § 1.1015-5).  Does this apply to my case since no gift tax paid?  I thought not, so I didn't add to my unadjusted basis.

    it's unlikely any gift tax will be paid so that number would be zero. where there is a gift tax it adds to basis but can't increase it above the fair value