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Cross account wash sales and calendar year wash sales.

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I have made a mess using my margin account broker to buy options and buying same underlying shares with my cash account broker. Then top it all, I rolled options to new year (took losses) and purchased same shares into the new year.

 

How do I account for this behavior in turbo tax?

 

I understand the brokers don't report the "spirit" of the trade moving from options to shares and only report matching option tickers so rolled options don't get accounted for properly. And it is my duty to reconcile my cash account with my margin account.

 

I have a figure for unreported disallowed wash sales and would at this point love to just throw the whole tax write off out the window! This accounting mess isn't worth the money I would save having a loss to carry over to the new year.

 

I have imported the brokers 1099 forms.

 

How do I take my trading yearly loss and remove $500 from it to account for the cross accounts and rolled positions?

Best answer by fanfare

If you believe that you no longer have a wash sale and that you should be allowed to now use the unallowed loss, due to the stock being completely sold or disposed of as of December 31st, and you are not sure which stocks were affected by the unallowed wash sale loss previously, then you could enter one sale for this.

 

The selling price would be zero and the cost basis would be the amount of your previous unallowed wash sale loss.  As you indicated, under a potential review you would have to show the transactions that led to this decision.  For your convenience below you can see the wash sale rules.

 

Keep in mind that not all states follow the same federal rules in relationship to wash sales.

 

 

Wash Sale Rule Defined:

  • A wash sale occurs when an investor sells or trades a security at a loss, and within 30 days before or after, buys another one that is substantially similar.
  • It also happens if the individual sells the security at a loss, and their spouse or a company they control buys a substantially similar security within 30 days.
  • The wash-sale rule prevents taxpayers from deducting a capital loss on the sale against the capital gain.

Affect on Cost Basis:

  • The loss that occurs on a wash sale is added to the cost basis of the shares purchased that created the wash sale.
  • When all shares are sold and there is no repurchase, that increased cost basis will be used in full and used to determine gain or loss.

Be sure to keep good records going forward so that you know when to add those losses for future sales.


@cles325 

The simplest solution is to report all consolidated 1099-Bs exactly as reported by the broker(s).

IRS will be satisfied with this.

It is recommended (by me) to use the "I'll enter a summary" option.

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At tax time, you have the option to summarize your activity by Sales Category.

As an active investor, be aware that your category Box A or Box D sales without adjustments do not require Form 8949, so there is no reason to import or key in those transactions.
Instead use the "enter a summary" option to put your numbers on Schedule D Line 1a or Line 8a.

Category A and D are the covered transactions.


If you summarize (recommended),

you only need to supply details of 1099-B covered transactions with adjustments that are not listed on your e-Filed Form 8949. and all non-covered transactions not listed there.

 

in other words, for active investors, generally this is a list of the Wash Sales.


Note: turboTax may suppress some covered transactions without adjustments. For those, no mailing is required !
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If you have two pages (for example) of Wash Sales,
use Adobe Reader to print those two pages. That's all you have to mail to the IRS, given that those wash sales are not on your e-Filed form 8949 already.
(you might enter them manually if they are few in number.)

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Alternatively, if entry of Wash Sales is too tedious,
summarize and check the box for adjustments and enter the disallowed amount.
This summary for that broker will go on Schedule D Line 1b.
You will be making the mail-in election.

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March 31, 2021

use a pro who can look at both 1099-B's and properly compute cross a/c wash sales and any other adjustments that are necessary. 

cles325Author
April 1, 2021

so for a possible future $50 tax credit I should hire a pro now for hundreds...

April 1, 2021

If you believe that you no longer have a wash sale and that you should be allowed to now use the unallowed loss, due to the stock being completely sold or disposed of as of December 31st, and you are not sure which stocks were affected by the unallowed wash sale loss previously, then you could enter one sale for this.

 

The selling price would be zero and the cost basis would be the amount of your previous unallowed wash sale loss.  As you indicated, under a potential review you would have to show the transactions that led to this decision.  For your convenience below you can see the wash sale rules.

 

Keep in mind that not all states follow the same federal rules in relationship to wash sales.

 

 

Wash Sale Rule Defined:

  • A wash sale occurs when an investor sells or trades a security at a loss, and within 30 days before or after, buys another one that is substantially similar.
  • It also happens if the individual sells the security at a loss, and their spouse or a company they control buys a substantially similar security within 30 days.
  • The wash-sale rule prevents taxpayers from deducting a capital loss on the sale against the capital gain.

Affect on Cost Basis:

  • The loss that occurs on a wash sale is added to the cost basis of the shares purchased that created the wash sale.
  • When all shares are sold and there is no repurchase, that increased cost basis will be used in full and used to determine gain or loss.

Be sure to keep good records going forward so that you know when to add those losses for future sales.

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