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  • April 10, 2022
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I converted my rental property to personal use Nov 1 of 2021 and TT comes up with a different number for allowable depreciation expense on my sch E work page than what I would expect 303/364 of 12 months of SL depreciation. TT applies a "vacation home loss limitation", but I cannot find where this is calculated.

    Best answer by ColeenD3

    For starters, there is no Column D on the SCH E. But maybe it's because you accidentally skipped column B? Or more than likely you're referring to one of the worksheets.

    Work through the property profile section again. Two or 3 screens in it asks "What Type of Rental Is This?"

    More than likely, you have incorrectly selected the option for "vacation or short term".

    Then on the next screen, "Do any of these situations apply to this property?" you should only have two things selected.

     - 2021 was the first year I rented this property

     - I converted this property from personal use to a rental in 2021

    For "Was this property rented for all of 2021?" Select YES. I'll say it again so there's no doubt I did not mess up. Say *Y*E*S* this property 'WAS" rented for all of 2021.

    Later when asked, for days rented select "THE WHOLE YEAR and if asked, days of personal use is "ZERO". It's asking for days of personal use *AFTER* you converted it to a rental. What you used it for before you converted it to a rental does not count for anything, anywhere on your tax return. Ever.

    The program will "know" when to start depreciation based on the fact that you physically entered an in service date of 11/1/2021

     


    Make sure that you have indicated the conversion and that you have answered the following questions correctly. The first screenshot shows the conversion and the date. The second offers an option for the conversion.

     

     

    In this last screen, enter zero personal days.

     

    2 replies

    ColeenD3
    April 10, 2022

    If you did not have a vacation home, you entered something wrong. You need to indicate that you converted to personal use. Once you do that, it ceases to be rental property. There is no comingled useage.

     

     

     

    duncan_gaAuthor
    April 10, 2022

    TT and I guess the IRS seem to conflate vacation home and personal use as one and the same in regard to schedule E depreciation.

    Carl11_2
    Employee
    April 10, 2022

    I converted my rental property to personal use Nov 1 of 2021 and TT comes up with a different number for allowable depreciation expense on my sch E work page than what I would expect 303/364 of 12 months of SL depreciation.

    303/364 is the wrong math. When it comes to the IRS, if it's easy you did it wrong. That's now how depreciation works. For rental property, the mid-month convention is used. See IRS Publication 946 and use the worksheet on page 37. For line 6 of the worksheet, Table A-6 on page 72 applies.

     

     

    duncan_gaAuthor
    April 10, 2022

    Maybe this is clearer:

    Converted property to personal use Nov 1, 2021

    Schedule E Wks

    Column A, 12 months calculated depreciation $14,747

    Column C (reported on Schedule E) $1,165

    Column D (vacation Home Loss Limitation) $13,582

    My question is, where is column D calculated in TT and why is it not based on days of use like all other schedule E expenses.

    Carl11_2
    Employee
    April 10, 2022

    For starters, there is no Column D on the SCH E. But maybe it's because you accidentally skipped column B? Or more than likely you're referring to one of the worksheets.

    Work through the property profile section again. Two or 3 screens in it asks "What Type of Rental Is This?"

    More than likely, you have incorrectly selected the option for "vacation or short term".

    Then on the next screen, "Do any of these situations apply to this property?" you should only have two things selected.

     - 2021 was the first year I rented this property

     - I converted this property from personal use to a rental in 2021

    For "Was this property rented for all of 2021?" Select YES. I'll say it again so there's no doubt I did not mess up. Say *Y*E*S* this property 'WAS" rented for all of 2021.

    Later when asked, for days rented select "THE WHOLE YEAR and if asked, days of personal use is "ZERO". It's asking for days of personal use *AFTER* you converted it to a rental. What you used it for before you converted it to a rental does not count for anything, anywhere on your tax return. Ever.

    The program will "know" when to start depreciation based on the fact that you physically entered an in service date of 11/1/2021