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Carl11_2
Employee
April 24, 2019
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Rental Property Fire Loss, how to report on taxes?

  • April 24, 2019
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Did your rental property burn to the ground and was a total loss? Maybe it was a hurricane, tornado or other disaster. Attached is a word document that explains how to deal with it on your taxes using the TurboTax program.

 

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    Carl11_2
    Carl11_2Author
    Employee
    June 27, 2019

    This response is solely for removing this post from the "unanswered" queue.

     

    March 8, 2020

    No.  Property was sold.

    February 15, 2021

    expenses incurred in 2019 exceeded rental income.. can i write off remainder in 2020?

    Carl11_2
    Carl11_2Author
    Employee
    April 17, 2022

    It's a 2 year old post. But I'll respond anyway since the answer still applies to the 2021 taxes.

    expenses incurred in 2019 exceeded rental income.. can i write off remainder in 2020?

    No. Not directly anyway.  It is very common for rental expenses to exceed rental income each and every year you are renting the property; especially if there's a mortgage on it. When you add up the deductible expenses of mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance and the depreciation you are required to take, those four items alone will almost always exceed the total rental income received for the tax year. Add to that your other allowed expense deduction (repairs, maintenance, etc) and you're practically guaranteed to show a loss on the SCH E line 26.

    Beginning in 2018, excess losses can be claimed and deducted from "other" ordinary income up to a maximum of $25K, if certain conditions are met. Any other loss is just carried over to the next year, where they can be deducted *if* you have the rental income to deduct it from. That probably won't happen. So it's rather common for your carry over losses to increase with each passing year. You will not be able to "realize" those losses until the tax year you sell the property. In the tax year you sell the property all carry over losses are fully deductible.

     

    September 24, 2022

    This is an excellent writeup Carl, thank you for all the details in your attached document 

     

    My case is a slight variant :

    - House burned down completely,  in a federal declared disaster

    - I was living in the house for 8 yrs before (primary home) but had converted the home to a rental just 1 year before fire.

    - Adjusted basis is less than the total insurance payout, hence involuntary gain 

    - From Section 121 exclusion rules, since i lived in the house for 2 of last 5 yrs,  I should be eligible to qualify for capital gains exclusion

     

    Questions :

    Based on your document, if i enter the details in TurboTax it shows that I have to pay a large tax bill on the gain. ( based on 4684 and 4797)

    How do I document this sale in Turbo Tax,  to avoid paying the taxes on involuntary gain.  

     

    Thanks in advance.