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April 22, 2021
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Back door IRA help!

  • April 22, 2021
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As a beginner, I made a mistake from the very beginning. And it tends to mess up my tax return for 2020. Need your experts' kind help here!

 

In 2019, I made 2* $6000 contribution to a traditional IRA by mistake on 12/24 and 12/26, respectively. After I realized it, I requested to withdraw the excess amount of contribution which was $6000. 

In 2020, Jan 2rd, the withdraw was successful. So I made 2020 traditional IRA contribution of $6000 and convert the total $12000 to a roth IRA. 

 

Then I got two 1099-R froms for 2020, one form has $6000 in box1, $0 in box 2a, unchecked in box2b, code P1 in box 7 and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box checked. The other has $12000 in box1, $12000 in box 2a, checked in box2b, code 2 in box 7 and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box checked. 

 

When I input the first 1099-R form, there is no tax penalty added, but when I input the second one, it adds up a few thousands which I know it is not correct. All the money I contributed to the traditional IRA is after-tax and I have never got any tax deduction from IRA, so why turbotax calculates so much extra tax for the second 1099-R?

 

I followed the step-by-step guidance from this thread: https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/entering-importing/help/how-do-i-enter-a-backdoor-roth-ira-conversion/00/25567, but it just added up the tax. 

 

Please kindly help!!! Thanks very much!

 

(p.s. I'll never put myself to this hard situation, just doing the contribution/conversion for the same tax year.)

 

 

    2 replies

    macuser_22
    Employee
    April 22, 2021

    Did you report the 2019 contribution as non-deductible on yiur 2019 tax return with an attached 8606 form with the $6,000 on line 1?     

     

    If not, then yiu need to amend and enter the contribution in the IRA contribution  interview and if you are eligible for a deduction the interview will ask if you want to make some or all  non-deductible.  Make it all non-deductible.     That will produce the 2019 8606 with the $6,000 on line 1,3 and 14.

     

    Enter the 2020 nondeductible contribution the same way.

     

    Use that 2019 8606 line 14 when you enter the 2020 1099-R and are asked for your prior years non-deductible contributions.

     

     

    Enter IRA contributions here:
    Federal Taxes,
    Deductions & Credits,
    I’ll choose what I work on (if that screen comes up),
    Retirement & Investments,
    Traditional & Roth IRA contribution.

    OR  Use the "Tools" menu  (if online version under My Account) and then "Search Topics" for "ira contributions" which will take you to the same place.

    **Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**
    crystalPPAuthor
    April 22, 2021

    Thanks! I did report 8606 for 2019 and it does show $6000 in line 1, 3, 14.

    I did the same thing for the 2020 1099-R, still confused why this time it leads to tax penalties, although box 2b "taxable amount not determined" is checked.

    macuser_22
    Employee
    April 22, 2021

    Where do you see penalties?      What is on the 1040 form line 4a and 4b?

     

    What on on the 2020 8606 form line 3 and 15-18?

    **Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**
    crystalPPAuthor
    April 22, 2021

    I found the tax penalty mainly comes after I input $12000 in box 2a, if I leave it blank, everything is fine. 

    Those $12000 are totally after-tax, and it should NOT be taxed again.

     

    For the 1099-R which summarizes the distribution of $12000 ($6000 from 2019 & $6000 from 2020 traditional IRA to Roth IRA conversion).

    It has $12000 in box1, $12000 in box 2a, checked in box2b, code 2 in box 7 and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box checked.