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Converting IRA to Roth IRA after age 59 1/2

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I am over 59 12.  If I convert an IRA to a Roth IRA (this would be a new Roth IRA), can I withdraw the contribution (not earnings) before 5 years.

 

A specific example.  I convert $100,000 from my IRA to a Roth and pay the income tax from the conversion.  I understand that I cannot take any earnings out of the Roth for 5 years without penalty.  Can I take any of the initial $100,000 conversion out before the 5 year waiting period.

 

I have seen some websites that say this is possible, others say it is not.  I have had one tax advisor say it is possible  and another say it is not.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

    Best answer by NCPERSON1

    Sorry I used the word contributions.  Yes, this is a conversion.


    @twb-53  you can ALWAYS distribute money from your Roth IRA.  The real question whether there are tax implications

     

    Since you are over 59.5, there is NEVER a 10% penalty. 

     

    The CONTRIBUTIONS and CONVERSIONS dollars can be distributed tax free.  

     

    The EARNINGS are subject to INCOME TAX if any Roth you own has not been open for 5 calendar years.

     

    On distributions, the IRS assumes all the CONTRIBUTIONS are distributed first, all the CONVERSION dollars are distributed 2nd, and then and only then are the earning distributed. 

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    August 31, 2024

    @twb-53 since you are over 59.5, the answer is 'yes'.  there is NEVER a 10% penalty on distributions from an IRA once you turn 59.5.

     

    Your understanding of the earnings is correct.  That Roth IRA needs to be open for 5 calendar years and after than, none of the earnings are taxable either.  Understand, if you have multiple Roth accounts, it's just the oldest one that needs to be open for 5 calendar years. 

     

    and technically, you did a "conversion"; you didn't make a 'contribution' - IRS uses those words differently..:-) 

    twb-53Author
    August 31, 2024

    I understand that there is no penalty on distributing from an IRA after 59 1/2, but that was not quite the question.  

     

    To restate: The ROTH IRA is opened after 59 1/2.  Can I immediately withdraw the contributions without penalty after opening.  I have been told that I cannot even withdraw the contributions for 5 years.  Your answer only confirmed the earning part.

    twb-53Author
    August 31, 2024

    Sorry I used the word contributions.  Yes, this is a conversion.