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July 11, 2020
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Mistakenly Contributed into Roth IRA, Called Vanguard to rech to traditional, which resulted in additional tax.

  • July 11, 2020
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Hi, 

I've contacted multiple agent through TT however this complicated problem is not fully resolved. I hope this forum can shed some light on my case 🙂 

 

Timeline of events:

  • 2017: First year me and my wife both contributed $5.5K through Vanguard, into Traditional, then immediately rolled over to Roth. No issue there
  • 2018: We mistakenly each put post tax money of $5.5K into Roth directly. Our income level (high) does not allow us to directly contribute. We screwed up.
  • 2019: Similar to 2018, screwed up again, this time $6K each. 
  • In April, 2019, I realized the mistakes we made in 2018/2019, so I called Vanguard. They told me they'd do a recharacterization. Essentially, they moved the 2018/2019 Roth money to Traditional and then did a backdoor conversion into Roth. 
  • In my 2019 return, I see three1099-R forms from Vanguard. 
    1. From Roth 1099-R: ~$6200 with code N (contribution in 2019, recharacterized in 2019)
    2. From Roth 1099-R: ~$6100 with code R (contribution in 2018, recharacterized in 2019)
    3. From Traditional 1099-R: ~$13000 with code 2 (early distribution) 
  • Apparently the system believes that I contributed more to Traditional than I'm allowed. So I'm taxed again for ~$7000 ($13000 - $6000) at the highest tax bracket (same applies to my wife).
  • I funded everything to Vanguard through my checking account which is post-tax already
  • It looks like the $13000 is the screwup. It looks like a 2 year contribution lump sum. Did Vanguard make a mistake here by not separating them out?

I tried to input in turbotax in different ways, talking with TT agents, but couldn't sort this issue out. In reality I know the money shouldn't be taxed as my income twice but I just can't sort this out. I may owe some capital gain tax because the money stayed in Roth for a while - that's the cost for this lesson learned. 

 

I know this is a very unique case but I'd appreciate any insights

 

 

 

 

    1 reply

    fanfare
    Employee
    July 12, 2020

    Your case is not unique or unusual.

    Funds for a prior  year you want to convert , you must elect non-deductible for the year you made the contribution.

    These amounts will go on Form 8606 filed for those years.

    Then your conversion of those funds in 2019 will not be taxed.

    only additional earnings, if any, will be taxed.

    fanfare
    Employee
    July 12, 2020

    You should probably request an extension of time to file while you work on the correct way to report all this. Don't rush it.

    fanfare
    Employee
    July 12, 2020

    If you haven't filed 8606, you must prepare sign and send to the IRS Form 8606 for the applicable prior years.

    Then you can attach a correct 2019 Form 8606 to your 2019 tax return.