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February 1, 2023
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TurboTax Incorrectly calculating PFL for CA

  • February 1, 2023
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Federal is all good. I have input the W2 from 3rd party insurance for pregnancy disability leave and the payments from the state on 1099-G for disability/PFL. When I move on to my state return, it puts the 1099-G amounts as unemployment but then turbotax puts an amount equal to 100% of my W2 salary for PFL, which I assume is incorrect. I corrected this amount to the amount reported on the W2 from the 3rd party insurance only.

My question is: how did the turbotax software come up with this hugely incorrect number for this line in the first place? It makes a $9000 difference on the refund amount I would be receiving so want to make 100% sure that my correcting the number they generated from my W2 salary down to $250 is correct. I was only on leave for 14 weeks so 100% of my salary being in that box didn't make sense but want to make sure I have corrected it properly.

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February 1, 2023

Please clarify this for me. Did you have two W-2s, one for your regular employment, and one from the 3rd party insurance company? Otherwise, I don't understand this: "then turbotax (sic) puts an amount equal to 100% of my W2 salary for PFL, "

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pcpatterAuthor
February 1, 2023

So my box 16 (state income) on the w2 from my employers has amount X. This amount X was autofilled on my state return as being all PFL (which it wasnt). Im not sure why this number was autofilled unless turbotax just assume anyone with disability/PFL payments was out all year. I have a seperate W2 for $250 from anthem insurance. So this was not reported on my w2 from work but was a separate payment my insurance paid to me directly. I hope that makes sense.

February 1, 2023

Can you clarify if the Third Party Sick Pay is indicated on your W2?  There is a place where you can indicate the PFL- it should be one of the followup questions on your W2 in the federal section.  @pcpatter 

pcpatterAuthor
February 1, 2023

It is on my W2 from anthem insurance directly. It is not on the w2 from my employer. 

February 2, 2023

You will want to go the W2 entry and make sure you indicate Paid Family Leave (see below).  Next, go to the California state tax return section and you should see the screen below where you can make the adjustment.  @pcpatter   

 

February 28, 2024

Hello,

 

I am having the same issue as well. I have read above and I am still confused. On this part of my state taxes it shows the top part of paid family leave and has my total income from box 16 of my W2 and the unemployment income exclusion shows the amount actually paid from PFL. Is the top box labeled Paid Family Leave  supposed to show my wages from box 16?

 

 

February 28, 2024

California defines Paid Family Leave as those dollars paid by the California EDD  (Employment Development Department) on a 1099-G, or from an insurance company engaged by your employer on a W-2 from the insurance company NOT your employer. PFL on your regular W-2 from your employer is almost certainly not tax-free PFL in the eyes of the CA Franchise Tax Board, no matter what your HR department says.

 

Over the years, I have found that employers and HR departments have a very poor understanding of what tax-free PFL is.

 

To answer your question, the top line "Paid Family Leave" is almost certainly not box 16 on your W-2, if by "W-2" you mean the document from your employer.

 

Please review this write and pay attention to the screen shots:

 

Paid Family Leave (PFL) is income that is taxable on the federal return but is non-taxable on the California state return if it

  • is paid by the state's Employment Development Department (EDD) and appears on a 1099-G form –OR–
  • is paid by an insurance company under a Voluntary Plan for Disability Insurance (VPDI) and reported on a W-2 from the insurance company.

To repeat: PFL is not included in your employer's regular W-2 but on a separate W-2 from the insurer.

 

Amounts called “PFL” that are paid by your employer and which appear on the W-2 from your employer (see last image below) are taxable both on the federal level and by the state of California.

 

When you mark a W-2 in TurboTax as being PFL, a screen about PFL appears in the California section of the interview.

 

**W-2 Interview**

 

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**California Interview**

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The amount of wages on the W-2 marked as PFL is displayed so you don't have to look it up, but you are asked enter the amount (if any) that was paid by an insurance company, and not your employer.

 

If none of the amount was paid by an insurance company but all of it was paid by your employer, then you must enter zero (0) in the wages box on this screen, because any amount reported by your employer in box 16 of a W-2 is considered by California as compensation for services or taxable fringe benefits.

 

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Note that compensation for short-term disability, vacation days, sick leave, and other employer benefits are not considered to be tax-free PFL.

 

 

If so "so-called" Paid Family Leave was actually paid by the employer on the W-2, then do not check Paid Family Leave on the screen after you enter the W-2.

 

 

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March 14, 2024

I did not get paid by insurance company and when I add 0 to that field, my CA refund goes down. That is the part where we are confused.